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#641 Posted : 01 July 2020 14:31:29

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birdaj2 wrote:
Garth

Continuing along very nicely indeed.

You are getting a very nice effect with your paintwork as well.

Hope it all continues well.

Tony


Thank you Tony - it's been a huge learning curve for me.

Regards,
Garth
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Finished!!! HMS Victory,
Current build: Black Pearl.
On hold: Bismarck, Golden Hind, Flying Scotsman, Victory Cross Section, SOTS, Tiger 1.
Wish list: USS Constitution.
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#642 Posted : 07 July 2020 13:28:19

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6. Shrouds. Part 01

Onto the rigging. This is my favorite part of building model ships. BigGrin BigGrin BigGrin

Fitted the masts and bowsprit. I have not glued them in – the rigging will hold them in place.
The instructions suggest we start with Plan 2 (Stays), but all my literature suggests fitting shrouds first. So here goes…
I fitted the shrouds and back stays using the 0.8mm black thread for the lower parts of the mast (below the fighting tops) and 0.5mm thread for anything above that. I basically followed the Victory instructions. (HMSV Dual Pack 10 DL, Page 396)
I made a jig to using 0.8mm brass wire (left over from the Victory) Once the deadeyes were secure, I fitted the lanyards.
I did a basic tension to align the masts but will tension them again once the ratlines are installed. I’m not sure how to describe just how tight I tensioned the shrouds, basically tight enough to maintain their shape – but not as tight as to bend any of the mast unnaturally.

I did a Heath Robinson on the lashings this time round:
- position the deadeye and tie up the shroud with a loose half hitch to keep the end out of the way. The waxed thread maintains its shape well.
- Tie the thinner thread directly above the deadeye with a half hitch.
- Run some glue over the knot and up the shroud.
- Wrap 12 times and secure with another half hitch. I wrapped the upper shrouds with 8 wraps.
- Apply white glue to the entire wrapping & cut off ends when dry.

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Finished!!! HMS Victory,
Current build: Black Pearl.
On hold: Bismarck, Golden Hind, Flying Scotsman, Victory Cross Section, SOTS, Tiger 1.
Wish list: USS Constitution.
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#643 Posted : 07 July 2020 14:32:33

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Lovely work Garth. That's looking fantastic. BigGrin
Malc.
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That looks fantastic.Love Love Love Some great modelling skills at work. Love Love Drool

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#645 Posted : 30 July 2020 19:47:43

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Hi Malc & Mark,
Thank you for looking in and for the kind words.
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Garth
"Measure twice, cut once!!!"
Finished!!! HMS Victory,
Current build: Black Pearl.
On hold: Bismarck, Golden Hind, Flying Scotsman, Victory Cross Section, SOTS, Tiger 1.
Wish list: USS Constitution.
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#646 Posted : 31 July 2020 09:22:38

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Enjoying your work Garth and learning lots of useful tips from your build.

Tony
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#647 Posted : 31 July 2020 11:48:52

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birdaj2 wrote:
Enjoying your work Garth and learning lots of useful tips from your build.

Tony


Hi Tony,

Thank you for your reply - it is sincerely appreciated.

Kind regards,
Garth
"Measure twice, cut once!!!"
Finished!!! HMS Victory,
Current build: Black Pearl.
On hold: Bismarck, Golden Hind, Flying Scotsman, Victory Cross Section, SOTS, Tiger 1.
Wish list: USS Constitution.
Garth
#648 Posted : 31 July 2020 11:49:57

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Hi All,
Just a small update today.
To make the catharpins, I tacked a piece of 2 x 1mm strip to the shrouds with superglue. I painted them black and lashed with some fine black thread.
Blackened the hooks provided and fitted the futtock shrouds according to the instructions.
I have only taken photos of the main mast, but the same applies to all the shrouds.
I also fitted the futtock staves, but unfortunately don’t have a pic of them

Kind regards,
Garth
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"Measure twice, cut once!!!"
Finished!!! HMS Victory,
Current build: Black Pearl.
On hold: Bismarck, Golden Hind, Flying Scotsman, Victory Cross Section, SOTS, Tiger 1.
Wish list: USS Constitution.
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#649 Posted : 01 August 2020 22:01:16

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Great work GarthBigGrin the extras you`ve done are superbDrool Drool


Regards PhilCool
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Great work Garth.
Really enjoying this build and admiring your skills.
Chris
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#651 Posted : 02 August 2020 12:28:44

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Nice work Garth. Those rigging arrangements look really complicated.
Malc.
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#652 Posted : 19 August 2020 12:22:41

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Hi Phil, Chris & Malc,
Thank you for looking in and for the kind replies.
Regards,
Garth
"Measure twice, cut once!!!"
Finished!!! HMS Victory,
Current build: Black Pearl.
On hold: Bismarck, Golden Hind, Flying Scotsman, Victory Cross Section, SOTS, Tiger 1.
Wish list: USS Constitution.
Garth
#653 Posted : 19 August 2020 12:26:59

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7 Stays - Part 01

As with the shrouds, I used 0.8mm black thread for stays below the fighting tops, everything else I used 0.5mm black thread. Otherwise everything is as per the instructions.

I used the deadeye spacer for all their lanyards.
Garth attached the following image(s):
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"Measure twice, cut once!!!"
Finished!!! HMS Victory,
Current build: Black Pearl.
On hold: Bismarck, Golden Hind, Flying Scotsman, Victory Cross Section, SOTS, Tiger 1.
Wish list: USS Constitution.
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Brilliant work GarthDrool BigGrin

Regards PhilCool
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tigerace wrote:
Brilliant work GarthDrool BigGrin

Regards PhilCool


Hi Phil,

Thank you for looking in and for the kind reply.

Regards,

Garth
"Measure twice, cut once!!!"
Finished!!! HMS Victory,
Current build: Black Pearl.
On hold: Bismarck, Golden Hind, Flying Scotsman, Victory Cross Section, SOTS, Tiger 1.
Wish list: USS Constitution.
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Garth

That is some really nice work on that rigging.

It “scares me” because so many kits Give very little guidance for this so important part of the build.

Tony
Happy Modelling

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#657 Posted : 27 August 2020 09:13:25

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birdaj2 wrote:
Garth

That is some really nice work on that rigging.

It “scares me” because so many kits Give very little guidance for this so important part of the build.

Tony


Hi Tony,
Thank you for looking in.
You are so right about that. Fortunately I have built the Victory and their instructions are flawless!!!
Even though the Hachette rigging instructions are for furled sails and pretty basic rigging - I feel like we have been thrown into the deep end. As per my earlier rant, they have pages on how to assemble the lanterns, repeated three times, but only two or three pages on the rigging. Whereas the Victory had around 20 issues.
Never the less, I have really enjoyed all the reading up and planning, and have learnt so much in the process.

Kind regards,
Garth
"Measure twice, cut once!!!"
Finished!!! HMS Victory,
Current build: Black Pearl.
On hold: Bismarck, Golden Hind, Flying Scotsman, Victory Cross Section, SOTS, Tiger 1.
Wish list: USS Constitution.
Garth
#658 Posted : 27 August 2020 09:15:10

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Stays Part 02

If you are building from my build, remember the jib stay and I also added a stay from the tip of the bowsprit to the fore top mast.

I deviated from the instructions when fitting stay No 1 & 2. They have us use an etched hook, but I chose rather to make a loop use a lanyard to secure them. it helped to be able to tension them.

Next up – the ratlines…Crying

Kind regards,
Garth
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"Measure twice, cut once!!!"
Finished!!! HMS Victory,
Current build: Black Pearl.
On hold: Bismarck, Golden Hind, Flying Scotsman, Victory Cross Section, SOTS, Tiger 1.
Wish list: USS Constitution.
Garth
#659 Posted : 07 September 2020 06:10:59

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08 The Ratlines

Probably one of the most tedious jobs when rigging are the ratlines. There are a number of ways of attaching them.

On my first wooden ship, a Billings kit – Meta, I put small dots of white glue on each shroud and simply laid the thinner ratline across. The viscosity of the white glue held it in place. Not the best method, but most definitely the fastest. Bearing in mind I was only 18 years old at the time.

The next method is to stich them on, as per the Victory instructions.

The method that I finally chose was the conventional method of tying nots. It is not as bad as I first imagined, once you get into it, it really goes quite fast. Alan posted a link to a Youtube vid on this. I followed his instructions.

https://forum.model-spac...amp;m=103811#post103811

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMmGFWJhi8E

The only thing I can add to this, is to make sure that you are really comfortable and angle the model in such a way that you take the strain off your arms as much as possible.

I gave the lanyards one last tension and tied them off on the bindings.
Glad this is done. The ratlines are the last of the tedious jobs left. Plain sailing form here on… Famous last wordsConfused

Kind regards,
Garth
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"Measure twice, cut once!!!"
Finished!!! HMS Victory,
Current build: Black Pearl.
On hold: Bismarck, Golden Hind, Flying Scotsman, Victory Cross Section, SOTS, Tiger 1.
Wish list: USS Constitution.
tigerace
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Outstanding Garth Drool the level of detail is amazing Drool Drool Love


Regards PhilCool
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