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ronald305
#1 Posted : 10 October 2018 21:50:43

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Hi Alan or anyone that has tackled this section of the build pages 138-139 parts 2-5, I understand the stern section of the planking using the template,( understanding that I do these steps for both sides) but I'm lost on the part of tapering the middle and forward planks, and my main problem would be understanding part 3,4 and 5, note:I notice in photo 5 the top #7 plank starts off tight on plank #6 but begins to rise a little, if that is normal does a piece of plank fit between the gaps anyway that will be my new problem untill I can understand it, anyway if anyone can show some light on this I would appreciate thank you PS-in part 3 after tapering the plank 1mm and bend the plank But what do they mean draw the guide line for the taper by hand
Ronald
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Hi Ronald,

Drawing the guide line by hand. The plank is 5mm wide and you need to reduce the width of the plank as it goes round the bow by 1mm to 4mm. Therefore, after you have bent the plank you need to draw a line on the plank from the point where the taper starts to the end of the plank to a width of 4mm, this you can draw by hand. There should not be any gap between the plank your are fitting and the planks already fitted to the ship....

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thanks Alan but it is still confusing how do I go about tapering a plank that is bent already wouldn't it be easier to taper the plank before bending also which end goes where does the 4mm side go the side or the bow area, and to answer your reply about there should not be any gaps in between plank # 7 and the lower one I get that but the photo # 4 does show a gap, also what about the other issues I mentioned # 5 can you explain what that means please in the mean time I will attempt to understand it by watching the video over and over again
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ronald305 wrote:
thanks Alan but it is still confusing how do I go about tapering a plank that is bent already wouldn't it be easier to taper the plank before bending also which end goes where does the 4mm side go the side or the bow area, and to answer your reply about there should not be any gaps in between plank # 7 and the lower one I get that but the photo # 4 does show a gap, also what about the other issues I mentioned # 5 can you explain what that means please in the mean time I will attempt to understand it by watching the video over and over again
Ronald



Hi Ronald,

To really understand what you are trying to achieve during the hull planking process I would recommend you study this topic, it really does explain the subject very well:

https://forum.model-spac...aspx?g=posts&t=5669

You may also find this topic useful, it is something I put together some time ago on how I went about tapering planks:

https://forum.model-spac...aspx?g=posts&t=6169

I find marking the taper out first and then sand down the taper on the strip with the use of a sanding block. The tapered edge should be glued against the planks already fitted, this leaves you with a straight edge ready to accept the next row of planks.

Hope this helps.

Regards

Alan
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#5 Posted : 11 October 2018 13:22:07

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HI Alan
I believe I understand now just have several questions because the instructions are not very clear on it, first I understand that I need to taper the planks for the bow and stern area, the instructions mentions the middle planks a little but not sure if I need to taper the middle planks or not, second can you explain to me #5 of page 139 concerning layer 9 & layer 8 why is layer mentioned first then 8, last question plank 7 the only plank that gets tappered
right thank you for yoru patentence
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sorry I wanted to mention as you said in your last message I kind of figured you would mark and taper the planks first which I like to do because the guide line method throws me off. one more thing I had asked this yesterday very important and not mention in the instructions which end of the taper goes to the bow the 1mm end or the 4mm end thank you
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sorry I wanted to mention as you said in your last message I kind of figured you would mark and taper the planks first which I like to do because the guide line method throws me off. one more thing I had asked this yesterday very important and not mention in the instructions which end of the taper goes to the bow the 1mm end or the 4mm end thank you
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Step 5 is simply advising where the plank joins are for these two rows, meaning the first plank laid for row 8 should run from frame 16 to frame 23. The first plank laid on row 9 should run from frame 15 to frame 22. Step 5 is advisory so makes no difference in what order it is printed, fit row 8 first then row 9. There is also no need to taper the middle planks of each row.

In your latest post you ask whether the 1mm or the 4mm end goes to the bow, think you need to read again as there isn't a 1mm end. Your are tapering the plank by 1mm not to 1mm.. You have a 5mm plank that when laid will require to be tapered from around frame 13 from 5mm down to 4mm, not 1mm... the 4mm end of the plank goes to the bow with the tapered edge joining the planks you have previously fitted to the hull.

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I'm sorry I thought I saw a tapering from 4mm to 1mm I miss read it, in other words I am suppose to remove about 1mm of planking from 5mm to 4mm for the stern and bow only do not need to taper the middle planking I got it now thanks
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ronald305 wrote:
I'm sorry I thought I saw a tapering from 4mm to 1mm I miss read it, in other words I am suppose to remove about 1mm of planking from 5mm to 4mm for the stern and bow only do not need to taper the middle planking I got it now thanks
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You need to taper from 5mm gradually down to 4mm at the end.
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ok thanks
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Hi Alan
I forgot to ask does matter which side the taper goes on the hull stern or bow
after reaching the 4mm at on end and do I still bevel the edges of the planks thank you
Ronald
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ronald305 wrote:
Hi Alan
I forgot to ask does matter which side the taper goes on the hull stern or bow
after reaching the 4mm at on end and do I still bevel the edges of the planks thank you
Ronald


Hi Ronald,

Have already said the tapered edge of the new plank should be glued against the edge of the planks already fitted to the hull. This ensures you always have a straight edge for the next new row of planks being fitted.

You need to get the best fit possible for all the planks laid with the aim of getting the edges of the planks to fit snuggly together, if by bevelling the edge of the new plank then the answer to your question would be yes.

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sorry again Alan
in the instructions it says that plank 9 does not need to be tapered and you mention it in the video but nothing is said of planks 8 does it need to be tapered or not thank you
Ronald
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