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#1 Posted : 28 November 2017 13:39:11

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Hi. I am a newbie to model ship building but have done model engineering, woodworking and clockmaking for many years. I have reached stage 62 of Hermoine without too much difficulty, it being just much smaller wood working than I have done previously.
However I am now getting to stages where I need help.
My first request for help is with painting the etched brass. Before painting or laquering brass clock parts I have cleaned them carefully before finishing the clean with Acetone.
However I notice that the etched brass supplied is coated and on testing a small section find the coating is removed with Acetone.
I have to clean the parts well as my finger are naturally very greasy.
Should the applied finish be treated as a priming layer. If so what is the best way to clean the components. I tried painting components PE1, stage 50/1, without rigorous cleaning but the paint, Admiralty acrylic, did not stick very well.
Thanks for any help.
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#2 Posted : 28 November 2017 17:00:57

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Hi

Emerse the parts in white vinger for a short time and rinse in clean water

You will then need to apply a metal primer before painting. I find the brush on type best for this tye of etch such as mr metal primer, which I use
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#3 Posted : 28 November 2017 17:34:06

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Thank you. Will need to get some white vinegar and then I will try your method.
Norman
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#4 Posted : 28 November 2017 18:18:10

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Welcome to the forum. BigGrin

Your build looks to be progressing well.

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#5 Posted : 28 November 2017 21:08:41

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Thank you. Will need to get some white vinegar and then I will try your method.
Norman



Link to the primer

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#6 Posted : 28 November 2017 22:32:09

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Hi Norman,
I normally wash the parts in soapy water then use Isopropyl alcohol on them, once dry I always use Citadel skull white primer in a Can. It sticks to everything and is very thin. It doesn't clog up detail either. I've never used a metal primer on any of my builds as the citadel range are made for metal parts so never needed to.

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#7 Posted : 28 November 2017 22:58:30

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BigGrin I must admit I use IPM as s cleaner on my metal parts and use Citadel Abdan black or Skull White primer as it sticks to every thing
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#8 Posted : 28 November 2017 23:31:44

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I second the Citadel primers.They dry incredibly quickly, have a really smooth and thin finish and it seems like they stick to anything and paint sticks well to them. The only downside is they are a bit pricey -at least in USA.

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#9 Posted : 29 November 2017 01:17:49

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Hi Clockmaker and first off, can I say what a fantastic job you are doing with this build.
When it comes to the brasswork, I normally just rinse it in normal washing-up liquid with some isopropyl added, after which I let it dry off naturally and then apply a coat of metal primer before applying any paint. Hope that helps.
Happy building
David
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#10 Posted : 29 November 2017 22:54:06

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A very nice looking build you have here, very well done...Cool Cool .. Look forward to seeing more of your work......Cool Cool

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#11 Posted : 29 November 2017 23:10:23

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Thank you to all who made suggestions. Unfortunately I don't have any of the materials suggested so will have to go on a shopping spree.

Thanks to all.
Norman
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#12 Posted : 19 February 2018 19:11:08

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Hull finished and I have just started on the rigging. I am worried about doing that as I have done no rigging except on a 14 ft sailing dinghy. I don't expect that will be much use. Having looked at the instructions for the rigging, only pictures, no written instructions, I am expecting to have problems so will probably need help.. Had no real problems with the hull, my biggest problem was gluing some of the smaller items onto already painted surfaces. Tried several different approaches but still find I am breaking the smaller items off during subsequent work. Paintwork was good initially when stage 16 had been completed but has deteriorated significantly since then. I attach a few pictures of the finished hull. The camera has shown defects that I didn't know existed.
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#13 Posted : 19 February 2018 19:55:57

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Hi Norman,

Looking at your build to date and judging by the quality of your work then I'd say don't worry about the rigging, I'm sure you'll do a great job. Looking at the instructions they look fairly straight forward and once you get started you'll find it all making sense. If you post up your progress on a regular basis then I'll be able to see how your doing and be ready to give you guidance if needed. Any problems then by all means get in touch with me and I'll respond....Cool Cool .. Help is always at hand....

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#14 Posted : 20 February 2018 00:47:49

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Hi Norman
Alan has said it all that I would have said. Can I take the opportunity of saying what a fantastic job you're making of this build and I only hope that mine will turn out half as good. Just keep posting and I'm sure you'll find the help you need.
Happy building
David
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Very nice work indeed.

Cool Cool Cool Cool

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#16 Posted : 22 February 2018 21:55:28

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Thanks for your comments.
Norman
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#17 Posted : 13 September 2018 18:44:07

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Just a few pictures showing where I have got to before hitting a major problem.
Had no major problems with the standing rigging but have found rigging the sails difficult
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Now for the major problem.
If you look at the uppermost sail in the attached pictures you will see that it overlaps the yard of the lower sail. On checking all the dimensions of this mast and checking against the full size picture supplied with the kit I find that the length of the upper section of the mast TR3 (given in 24.PDF image 912 ) is incorrect. I believe the length should be nearer 136 mm. Unfortunately to correct this means a lot of work removing shrouds, splicing an extra section on to the mast and the replacing with new shrouds.

I would appreciate it someone would double checking this dimension. If this error can is verified can the manufacturers of the kit be notified

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Hi Norman, I'll take a look at this and come back to you.....

She's looking really good....Cool Cool Cool Cool .. Lovely work...

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