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#121 Posted : 12 September 2019 09:50:41

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roymattblack wrote:
I fully expect this will be another stunner.

Roy.


I hope Roy...the hardest parts of project is don't missing any pieces and broke any parts.
I'll do my best (i hope)Blushing
Collection active: Lamborghini Countach 1/8; Porsche RS 1/8; Jaguar E-type 1/8, Ferrari 312T4 1/8; Ferrari F40Competizione 1/8; Subaru WRC 2003 1/8, Dodge Charger F&F 1/8

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#122 Posted : 13 September 2019 07:24:12

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I'm just oredered the Museum COllection decal set for monocoque e e nose cone

I've dismantled without any damage the monocoque from the engine/gearbox.

I also took apart front suspension and rear side pods of gearbox.

I started to fill the monocoque in the headrest zone and rear zone and i filled the nose cone

I sanded the iniecjton point on nose wing, front wing flap and rear gearbox pods.

My intention is to carbon cover all the monocoque and the inside of bodyshell.



























Collection active: Lamborghini Countach 1/8; Porsche RS 1/8; Jaguar E-type 1/8, Ferrari 312T4 1/8; Ferrari F40Competizione 1/8; Subaru WRC 2003 1/8, Dodge Charger F&F 1/8

Work in progress: Mclaren MP4/4, Golf GTI 1/8

Completed model: Delta WRC Martini, Delta Test WRC
frah2o
#123 Posted : 13 September 2019 08:26:37

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I've tried for the first time the ciano degluing with freezer. I separated interccoler and radiator from ducts without damege. So i can carbon the duct free of any other parts

Once i have disassmbled the caliper, i stated to work on discs.
I holed the central hub and started to filling the disc

I'm also traying to harden the rubber seat for futur carbon



















Collection active: Lamborghini Countach 1/8; Porsche RS 1/8; Jaguar E-type 1/8, Ferrari 312T4 1/8; Ferrari F40Competizione 1/8; Subaru WRC 2003 1/8, Dodge Charger F&F 1/8

Work in progress: Mclaren MP4/4, Golf GTI 1/8

Completed model: Delta WRC Martini, Delta Test WRC
frah2o
#124 Posted : 14 September 2019 06:57:16

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Iìve finished the work on brake disc (all filled)

Then i stated to work on radiator side pods. They're in 2 parts, but i wanted it "monolithic"

Before to "weld" them i made the self template for future inner carbon decal, the i glued with ciano and fixxed.

The problem to of this job is the plastic blanked mesh.

As I seen on references and R1M (Malc) Diary i tried to selfmade the metel mesh as 1:1 MP4/4

I made template and i cut the shape on metal mesh. I added bare metal on mopunting side, i made hole and added a washer for the fitting of tie rod.

I think that is a better view tan original plastic mesh































Collection active: Lamborghini Countach 1/8; Porsche RS 1/8; Jaguar E-type 1/8, Ferrari 312T4 1/8; Ferrari F40Competizione 1/8; Subaru WRC 2003 1/8, Dodge Charger F&F 1/8

Work in progress: Mclaren MP4/4, Golf GTI 1/8

Completed model: Delta WRC Martini, Delta Test WRC
Markwarren
#125 Posted : 14 September 2019 08:53:58

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Coming on very nicely.ThumpUp

Mark
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#126 Posted : 17 September 2019 09:14:40

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Excellent stuff !! Looking very good.
Malc.
frah2o
#127 Posted : 17 September 2019 15:05:42

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Markwarren wrote:
Coming on very nicely.ThumpUp

Mark


RM1 wrote:
Excellent stuff !! Looking very good.
Malc.


Thanks to much mates.....Malc i think i'll nedd your help for some tricks on this restroing project.

I've statrted the carbon work on front nose.

When I tryed the fitting I saw a mistake. I forgot some carbon in the central pillar of dront wing.
I've just added the missing decal (I'll made a pics in the next post)




























Collection active: Lamborghini Countach 1/8; Porsche RS 1/8; Jaguar E-type 1/8, Ferrari 312T4 1/8; Ferrari F40Competizione 1/8; Subaru WRC 2003 1/8, Dodge Charger F&F 1/8

Work in progress: Mclaren MP4/4, Golf GTI 1/8

Completed model: Delta WRC Martini, Delta Test WRC
frah2o
#128 Posted : 17 September 2019 15:09:07

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While i'm waiting the decal from Autograph, i've started to work on bodyshell.

First work is to piant the under outside black stripe.

I'also paint the inside of bodyshell in balck matt to have a future color base for carbon coating.

At the aend of the work i was not satisfied for to much visible injection point and the junction point of the bodyshell.

So i started to sand and fill to remade a little bit smooth surface for carbon.


























































Collection active: Lamborghini Countach 1/8; Porsche RS 1/8; Jaguar E-type 1/8, Ferrari 312T4 1/8; Ferrari F40Competizione 1/8; Subaru WRC 2003 1/8, Dodge Charger F&F 1/8

Work in progress: Mclaren MP4/4, Golf GTI 1/8

Completed model: Delta WRC Martini, Delta Test WRC
frah2o
#129 Posted : 19 September 2019 09:57:43

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Re sanded and re filled the inside of bodyshell to reach a smoothier surface.
Fortunately the external of body is mint

I started the carbon work on cooling body duct, i followed the refernces images on mfh book

I also took the Haynes mauals for Mp4 to have more refrences pics

I also find on the net the technical pics of MFH model, they'll help me with future lubrification and cooling system






Tratto dal mio libro references MFH










Da amazon.it

Collection active: Lamborghini Countach 1/8; Porsche RS 1/8; Jaguar E-type 1/8, Ferrari 312T4 1/8; Ferrari F40Competizione 1/8; Subaru WRC 2003 1/8, Dodge Charger F&F 1/8

Work in progress: Mclaren MP4/4, Golf GTI 1/8

Completed model: Delta WRC Martini, Delta Test WRC
frah2o
#130 Posted : 19 September 2019 10:43:58

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I started the carbon work on first body duct.

I took an 1/32 carbon decal to reach the extra fine effect on radiator duct on monocoque.....before to fit i'll made some expreiment with color base and final clear coat.

Finally are arrived the first part of Museum Collection decal.



















Collection active: Lamborghini Countach 1/8; Porsche RS 1/8; Jaguar E-type 1/8, Ferrari 312T4 1/8; Ferrari F40Competizione 1/8; Subaru WRC 2003 1/8, Dodge Charger F&F 1/8

Work in progress: Mclaren MP4/4, Golf GTI 1/8

Completed model: Delta WRC Martini, Delta Test WRC
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#131 Posted : 19 September 2019 19:35:43

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Wow.. Francesco you're putting in an amazing amount of work. It's going to be a stunning replica.
Malc.
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#132 Posted : 19 September 2019 20:18:40

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Great attention to detail, looking excellent.Love Love

Mark
frah2o
#133 Posted : 20 September 2019 11:23:14

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I started the test work with future carbon decal for radiator side pods o radiator housing.

I've doing dome test with color base and 1/32 carbon decal.

The carbon fiber on radiator housing (inside red area) is really extra fine.

I don't want to paint, i want to decal them to give a real carbon look

I also made some wheatering experiment.

This carbon is extra fine and rough and really matt.

So i think the best color base is graphite gray with a final clear matt coat.





























Collection active: Lamborghini Countach 1/8; Porsche RS 1/8; Jaguar E-type 1/8, Ferrari 312T4 1/8; Ferrari F40Competizione 1/8; Subaru WRC 2003 1/8, Dodge Charger F&F 1/8

Work in progress: Mclaren MP4/4, Golf GTI 1/8

Completed model: Delta WRC Martini, Delta Test WRC
frah2o
#134 Posted : 20 September 2019 11:34:28

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Every parts of this chassis ir really complicated with different carbon fiber

Nose cone has 2 different carbon

Red arrow is carbon extra fine area.

Yellow arrow is a little big carbon area



The better color base i think will be a light gun metal.

To reach the differences between the extra fine and fine carbon i think to do the upper with 1/32 and the side with museum collection

To have right template, I copied the Museum collection template


Collection active: Lamborghini Countach 1/8; Porsche RS 1/8; Jaguar E-type 1/8, Ferrari 312T4 1/8; Ferrari F40Competizione 1/8; Subaru WRC 2003 1/8, Dodge Charger F&F 1/8

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frah2o
#135 Posted : 20 September 2019 11:49:54

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The monocoque.....is a really headache

This part is very different color with many particular

The monocoque is dividide in 3 different parts

The front parts like the rear parts where is fuel tank (brown area) is a bronze color (in other pics seems a brown green mixed) In some 1988 race pics it seems a dark bronze color


The central area (red zone) in some pics is black, in other is dark brown. This area is the middle of monocoque until the headrest and cockpit zone

I post some pics where the are some color differenc









Motegi Museum







Race season







Ogni foto frega....assume le tonalità più diverse. Scale motorport la fa bronzo, MFH la fa bronzo.....anche a me in gara e in alcune foto del museo appare bronzo.

The central area is very dark....is darker than carbon of radiator houding box




I think the best color base is dark brown for middle monocoque area and 1/32 carbon decal

Another particular is a different carbon plate where is the engine mount bracket.

Collection active: Lamborghini Countach 1/8; Porsche RS 1/8; Jaguar E-type 1/8, Ferrari 312T4 1/8; Ferrari F40Competizione 1/8; Subaru WRC 2003 1/8, Dodge Charger F&F 1/8

Work in progress: Mclaren MP4/4, Golf GTI 1/8

Completed model: Delta WRC Martini, Delta Test WRC
frah2o
#136 Posted : 20 September 2019 11:56:31

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Radiator housing ducts or radiator box

They are really extra fine carbon....many people just leavein plastic or just paint them

THey're in carbon and i'll try to coat with 1/32 decal



I think the riaght base is graphite gray

Another particular are the washer of rivets. These washer are maade with a a different color carbon
Other particular is the area with there are the control unit. In this area there's a bigger carbon compared to overrall radiator box




I hope with Haynes book to see more refernces pics
Collection active: Lamborghini Countach 1/8; Porsche RS 1/8; Jaguar E-type 1/8, Ferrari 312T4 1/8; Ferrari F40Competizione 1/8; Subaru WRC 2003 1/8, Dodge Charger F&F 1/8

Work in progress: Mclaren MP4/4, Golf GTI 1/8

Completed model: Delta WRC Martini, Delta Test WRC
frah2o
#137 Posted : 20 September 2019 12:07:56

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The last monocoque area to analyze is the inside.

I divided the carbon differences with some area circle.

- Yellow area is extra fine inside carbon
- Red area is bigger carbon
- Blue area is outside carbon

Inside the 2 types of carbon. Yellow extra fine and bigger.
The extra fine is the whole inside of cockpit. the bigger is for seat and armrest and gearknob cover until the lower right side of dash.

The blu area is the outside carbon of central monocoque
I saw particular that made me think

In this pics (I think motegi museum) is one screw missing.

I think that this chassis is restored.
In the 1988 season this section is really darker and rough...in the museum is like brown and very smooth. I think this carbon section is a possible replacement with a little bit light carbon

The dah board is plastic

The inside color base cockpit i think will be in light gray and outide i continued with drak brown.

This carbon on this car is a really nightmare. RollEyes









Collection active: Lamborghini Countach 1/8; Porsche RS 1/8; Jaguar E-type 1/8, Ferrari 312T4 1/8; Ferrari F40Competizione 1/8; Subaru WRC 2003 1/8, Dodge Charger F&F 1/8

Work in progress: Mclaren MP4/4, Golf GTI 1/8

Completed model: Delta WRC Martini, Delta Test WRC
frah2o
#138 Posted : 21 September 2019 08:10:58

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I started the carbon work on iside of bodyshell.....a big load of carbon decal...Blink

I hope to finish the bodyshell in this weekend.

I think the hardest part is completed: the hump (I don't know is it the right name)





























Collection active: Lamborghini Countach 1/8; Porsche RS 1/8; Jaguar E-type 1/8, Ferrari 312T4 1/8; Ferrari F40Competizione 1/8; Subaru WRC 2003 1/8, Dodge Charger F&F 1/8

Work in progress: Mclaren MP4/4, Golf GTI 1/8

Completed model: Delta WRC Martini, Delta Test WRC
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#139 Posted : 21 September 2019 23:52:12

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That is some very nice carbon work. It is a pain getting those sheets to conform to curves. I am adding carbon decals to the turbo inlets on my build and it is tedious work. What brand of decal are you using - scale motor sports?

Rich
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#140 Posted : 23 September 2019 07:21:41

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rjfk2002 wrote:
That is some very nice carbon work. It is a pain getting those sheets to conform to curves. I am adding carbon decals to the turbo inlets on my build and it is tedious work. What brand of decal are you using - scale motor sports?

Rich


Hi Rich,for turbo inlets i uded a Cartograph chequered carbon (no twill) for 1/24 and I used and Museum Collection template, but i made some cut on decal while i've posed to eliminate the wrinkles.

I also used the scale motorsport (Kevlar for my Delta), but i notices that are harder and fragile then Cartograph.

I haven't use MC decal yet....i hope will be like Cartograph
Collection active: Lamborghini Countach 1/8; Porsche RS 1/8; Jaguar E-type 1/8, Ferrari 312T4 1/8; Ferrari F40Competizione 1/8; Subaru WRC 2003 1/8, Dodge Charger F&F 1/8

Work in progress: Mclaren MP4/4, Golf GTI 1/8

Completed model: Delta WRC Martini, Delta Test WRC
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